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Hillary's appeal on Iraq (none / 0)

There are three groups of Americans vis-a-vis Iraq:

(1) Those who were against the war from the beginning

(2) Those who were originally for the war but are now against it

(3) Those who were for it and still are.

If Obama is the nominee, he will win the first group solidly but lose a lot of the second group to McCain.

If Clinton is the nominee, she will win almost as much of the first group as Obama (barring a few sit-outs or Nader voters), but also a much higher percentage of the second group.

In total, Clinton will win more voters on the Iraq issue than Obama will.


by markjay on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 06:01:51 PM EST

People are not coke machines.. (none / 0)

You don't come up with some contrived formula and then their vote pops out..

Sorry ...


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 08:42:03 PM EST
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markjay, I'm sorry.. (none / 0)

didn't read your whole post before posting.

Its been a long day for me and I'm tired. Yes, I agree with you, I think Hillary doesn't look like they will be able to smear her as much as they want to.

Lets not forget that Saddam probably killed at least a million of his own people..

I think that nomatter what you think of the last few years in Iraq, its still hard not to be glad Saddam is gone..


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 08:45:38 PM EST
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Re: markjay, I'm sorry.. (none / 0)

I could be gladder if American foreign policy were not so hypocritical. Where was all this concern for human rights when we were helping death squads kill 200,000 Guatemalans or 50,000 Salvadorans?  The fact is we supported Saddam when he was gassing Kurds and Shiites, Rumsfeld was over there shaking his hand.  The problem with "it's good to be rid of people like Saddam" is we only care if there is something else we want, like the oil reserves he's sitting on.  The rest of the world sees this and it generates hatred, not good for America.


by ralphlopez on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 02:05:25 PM EST
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